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Tank Comparison
By Chris Edmonson | Published  10/30/2005 | Product Comparisons | Rating:
Tank Comparison

Tank Comparison

 

    

The Yamaha is heavy, 467 pounds (212.0 kg), and has a very solid feel when you first get on it.  The Tank is more like 286 pounds (130 kg) and has a noticeably lighter feel.  These scoots run on a set of 12 inch wheels for the Tank and 14 inchers on the Yamaha and the front tread is close to the same whereas the Yamaha is way wider in the rear tread department.  For fuel capacity the Majesty has a 3.7 gallon (14 liter) tank while the Tank’s tank holds 2.9 gallons (which is way more than most 150 cc scooters).  A surprise to me was that the rated capacity of the Tank was 400 pounds while the Yamaha shows only a 432 pound maximum!  Given that the Yamaha is a 400 cc beast and the Tank is 150 cc’s you would expect and be correct that the acceleration of a Majesty is screamingly better than the Tank (TK150).  What might get your attention is that the Tank pulls strongly away from a stop light and has good acceleration throughout its range.  It may not have top end that a bigger motor generates but it gets out in traffic and in city riding has quite a bit of ability to stay with the traffic flow.  The difference from 0 to 45 mph is there but is less significant than you might think.  So, yeah, the Majesty is faster in the clear than the TK150.

 

     When you look at the handle bars next to each other there is less height difference than you would expect and the seat heights are very close as well.  What really opens your eyes is that the TK150 has way more leg room than the Majesty.  You give up the storage space you have on the Yammer in the two glove boxes but at my 6’2” height that seems like a reasonable trade off.  Since controls have been standardized for so long on single track vehicles another surprise that I liked about the Tank was the “Passing” momentary switch for the lights that is missing from the Majesty.  This little convenience was something I liked right from the start.  It flicks your brights on as long as you hold the switch down but turns them off as soon as released.  Great feature and, yes, I wish the Yamaha had it. 

 

     This leads to a problem I have had with the Tank from the beginning.  The lights can be adjusted but on mine the gear for that adjustment was broken at the outset.  I removed the cowling and disassembled the knob with stripped gear and have shipped it off for a fresh one.  Since these are plastic gears they probably won’t have a super long life span but hopefully you can have better luck with yours.  I have used the screw on the inner gear to adjust the lights somewhat and while I am still not happy with the results it is better than where I started from… lights aimed at the ground 10 feet in front of the scooter on the high setting.  Since I was mucking about with cowling off I took the opportunity to add a set of running lights with a separate on/off switch next to the ignition.  I also drilled a hole next to the radio volume knob and set the LED on indicator light there.  When I saw that the light was there and deduced why it might be there I could not figure out what the logic had been in not putting a lens there or, as I did, simply drill a hole and use a dab of glue to hold it in place?  The Yamaha has superior lighting to anything I have ridden to date.  We are talking a daylight kind of light, so this was and is one place where the Tank fell down a notch.  On a recent ride along a very dark twisty road the Majesty was very fast and still could not out run its lights.  The Tank has a hard time in these conditions but then I do not see myself making a thick darkness speed run on a town cruiser any time soon.

 

     There are a few small things that make a difference that are not noticed right away.  One is the position of the turn signal lights.  The blinkers are higher on the Tank and therefore closer and coincidentally larger than on the Majesty.  It is much easier to see these when you forget to release the blinker after a turn and you are more likely to look at them.  The distance of the glance down and the lighting is actually better for the Tank.  The Yamaha instruments tell you a world more information but it is not all totally necessary all the time.  Another small issue is that the cowling and related bodywork is modular on the Tank.  It takes a Phillips head screw driver and a ten millimeter wrench to field strip the Tank almost entirely.  If you want to do the same on the Yamaha it would be a much larger project.  For a vehicle that may want to undergo some customizing at its owner’s hand this is a very useful feature.

     Finally the riding part!  The Tank has a wheel base of 1450 mm (57.08 inches) while the Yam’s is 1565 mm (61.61 inches).  The Yamaha has this slam dunk steadiness that lets you run at speed even up on the freeway.  It does not flick joyfully around with this heavier longer wheel base, however.  The Tank can be flung from side to side and reacts in an almost flick of the wrist sort of way.  This flick factor is definitely fun in traffic.  There is no way you find me riding the Tank up on the freeway but I feel confident that I could keep up with the Yamaha in thicker traffic around town.  One thing standing in the way on the TK150 is that the mirrors were hard to adjust correctly.  It took some creative grinding on the spacer and few other innovations to get anything like a good view in the mirrors.  The Yammer definitely has an edge here with very steady and perfectly adjustable mirrors it is easier to see if I have a lane change opportunity.  There will be more work on the Tank’s mirrors because over all I like the fact that second signal flasher is there and if I can get them both steadier and set a little more above the brake fluid box I will be much happier.

 

     The wind screen on both scoots is good for my height and the ride quality so I cannot think of anything in that department that a different shape or size would help me with.  These are both very steady and straight on tracking which is proved with a slight release of the grips while running on a level and smooth surfaced roadway. With a ride exchange every few miles you get the picture that the Tank will turn with less effort and it has a less complicated set of instrumentation than the Majesty but isn’t that what you want in a daily driver use?  Get on and zip all over town on less gasoline than anything else you can ride while keeping up with traffic?  With Tank’s steering geometry and smaller wheels favoring moving around the road as you wish you will find yourself in the right place in amongst the cagers.  The Tank suffers a few quirky things like the fuel gage that works intermittently (I know I’ll find where it’s shorting out some day) or the lack of storage (the Yam has more than I can tell you about) but frankly with a kick start (the Yam is electric only) and an uncomplicated persona I like the Tank Touring for what it is.  The Tank is a fun uncomplicated ride that can do the job around town at a very economical dollar amount.  There may be jobs it cannot do but overall it is as much as is needed most of the time.

 


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  • Comment #1 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Comparing a TANK 150 touring with a Yamaha 400 and the TANK held it's own. It's like comparing Chinese and Mexican food. Great job and good info. Thanks.

    Larry
     
  • Comment #2 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    THanks Chris for this comparison it is very helpful.
     
  • Comment #3 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    I like it... I've got a tank coming my way and looking forward to living the experiance! Good write up!!!
     
  • Comment #4 (Posted by John Hooper)
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    I have a bit of info besides that I feel important about the Tank.. Its a Warning
    HEADLIGHTS WILL FAIL if engine stalls. See
    if the engine stops the headlights
    will quit! An item called AUTOMATIC VALVE
    is a switch guessing run by engine
    vacuum. Its design is not to put extra
    load on the battery while starting the
    bike via electric or kick starter. All in all
    a nice feature till the motor quits at high
    speed at night. What will happen is the
    headlights will GO OFF since the trans-
    mission not designed to keep the motor
    turning like a manual transmission would.
    Even a manual tranny the lights would go
    out soon as the clutch was depressed.
    Re-engaging the clutch when the engine
    is at zero RPM is a danger in itself! So at
    this point I am all sure we can see the Bad
    and the Ugly. So what is the Good The
    momentary High Beams is not on this circuit.
    So pressing that switch down will give you
    back lights as long as it pressed. This is in
    no way ideal but it beats no light at all trying
    to get off the road in one piece.

    Not trying to scare any one away from one this may vary well be common practice. But if it is I think it a poor one myself
     
  • Comment #5 (Posted by John Hooper)
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    I have a bit of info besides that I feel important about the Tank.. Its a Warning
    HEADLIGHTS WILL FAIL if engine stalls. See
    if the engine stops the headlights
    will quit! An item called AUTOMATIC VALVE
    is a switch guessing run by engine
    vacuum. Its design is not to put extra
    load on the battery while starting the
    bike via electric or kick starter. All in all
    a nice feature till the motor quits at high
    speed at night. What will happen is the
    headlights will GO OFF since the trans-
    mission not designed to keep the motor
    turning like a manual transmission would.
    Even a manual tranny the lights would go
    out soon as the clutch was depressed.
    Re-engaging the clutch when the engine
    is at zero RPM is a danger in itself! So at
    this point I am all sure we can see the Bad
    and the Ugly. So what is the Good The
    momentary High Beams is not on this circuit.
    So pressing that switch down will give you
    back lights as long as it pressed. This is in
    no way ideal but it beats no light at all trying
    to get off the road in one piece.

    Not trying to scare any one away from one this may vary well be common practice. But if it is I think it a poor one myself
     
  • Comment #6 (Posted by Chris Edmonson)
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    The last comment was extremely interesting so I immediately went out and tested the various configurations of lighting. I also checked it against the Yamaha just to be consistent with the article. The engineers must have had something in mind when they designed this odd feature but for the moment I cannot think of a positive reason that they would limit the headlights in this way. Very odd indeed! The Yamaha lights seem to be the same except they don't hav a sepate circuit for a momentary switch so you would have NO LIGHTS AT ALL!!! Yikes I wonder if there is a work around for that too... I'll look into this further.
     
  • Comment #7 (Posted by John Hooper)
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    well there is a work around couple of them come to mind
    ! could just put in a switch that basically completes the circut basically a jumper accross the auto valve solenoid once the bike is started then hit the switch and light will stay on .. problem with that is remembering to turn it on.
    2 most automatic I can think of specially if it is Vacuum operated as I am guessing is to add a small canister in the vacuum line one end of it have to be very constricted it would make the lights a bit slower to come on but set up right they would also stay on a while do to the slow vacuum release I would think that if it was setup to say give you even 10 second of light after the motor stalled it would at the very least let you slow down considerably before the turned off. The canister would work simular to some of the first Power brakes on cars. If the cared stalled the canister held enough vacuum to leave you with power brakes for a few application of the pedal.
    3 if this is an electric solenoid then a small can type Capacitor could be use. basically this Type of Capacitor Hold a limited Charge and would keep the circuit open till it drains down.. it would not run the lights just the relay and one of say 1X3 inches probably keep it open for say 10 to 30 seconds .. as I mention when I posted in that tank assemble article It is cold here right now so not had a chance to really look it over. I found this by redoing the wiring diagram if your interested in a copy of it in GIF or PSP format. it in english(close to real english as I can muster) and in color that auto valve shows nothing to activate it so I am pretty sure it not an ELectric relay and run by Vacuum
     
  • Comment #8 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Why not compare a 150 cc to another 150 cc scooter Why 150 to a 400
     
  • Comment #9 (Posted by John B. Hooper)
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    If you had read the article you know why it was a 400cc and a 150 ... happen to be for reasons stated the 2 scooters he ended up owning and supprisenly enough the 150 held up quite well in many ways to the 400 and considerable price difference .. even though the lighting problem is same for both with the 150 having a slightly better way of at least haveing some lights .. I was totally amazed that the 400cc I believe approx 4000.00 dollar even had a lighting system that was set that way .. some how seems that they just figured scooters would only be used on well lit city streets.. not on some road without any lighting and that totally bothers me
     
  • Comment #10 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Alot of info thanks
     
  • Comment #11 (Posted by Joseph Brown)
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    thinking of buy a tank touring scooter you helped me a lot great info thanks.
     
  • Comment #12 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    its me bbj500 (john) i have been sick for a wile but im getting back up and will be rideing soon. it is good to hear that the tank did so well in the compairson considering the price diffrence in the 2 bikes. as you know i have been spouting off about the touring 150 since i bought it back in august. i was woried when you told me you went ahead and bought the majesty wile waiting for the tank i figured theres no way the tank could compair but it seem you gave an honest review of the tank and for that i thank you. there were so many people bad mouthing the tank bikes without even owning one. i now have 1700 km on mine now and i have had "0" problems except for the time i left the cd player on and killed the batt. i agree its a good bike for the price and now im upset that i didnt wait a little longer to buy one i have see the touring 150 for as little as 1299.00 including the shiping! and now theres like 10 colors. oh well....... thanks for the good review i happy im not the only one that likes there tank..... JOHN
     
  • Comment #13 (Posted by Stan Jessup)
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    Rather than worry about how to work around the light going off on engine dying why not simply hold down the passing switch in the event the engine dies while riding at night until you can pull over. Seems the Tank has the advantage on this one....... Stan
     
  • Comment #14 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    As a straight up comparison the author addressed all the areas I could think of without going on about extras. The extra storage compartment itself is a little chintzy but that's an extra. Well done.
     
  • Comment #15 (Posted by Jim)
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    Great review straight up. I own the same Tank and am overall very pleased. Some very minor problems easily fixed. The main thing I wanted to add is that when I was shopping there was just about a 4000 difference in price. Yikes! With money tight I went with the Tank and so far so good.
     
  • Comment #16 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Comments were comperable between both bikes. Identified specific factors in the comparison. Thanks I just got my Tank 150 and am pleased with the value to dollar ratio. My Internet dealer was exception in responce to questions assistance responce time. Usually same day or next morning. From order to receipt of bike 6 working days! Dealer Dave @ Extreme-Scooters!Thanks! Or TANKS! Don R. in Tucson AZ.
     
  • Comment #17 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    very well thought out and good information for anyone with a Tank.

     
  • Comment #18 (Posted by larry jones)
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    Just got a tank sporty 50 run's good looking for a repair manual just in case I need it
     
  • Comment #19 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Interesting unbiased and very useful. Thank you.
     
  • Comment #20 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Thank you Thank you Thank you I fell in LOVE with the looks of the Tank urban courier and after lots of research of that style scoot decided to give Dave a call at scooters Georgia and to have him order me one Then I started to read all the negative crap about them and wasn't sure I had made the right decision even though I have confidence in Dave (good things posted and sounds knowledgeable). your post and the posting by Kevin of Tank scooters have me convinced Tank is a grate buy for the money. Tanks for your testimony Phil.
     
  • Comment #21 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    With 2 teenage boys we are considering switching to Tank scooters to cut down on gas. I am familiar with Honda and Yamaha scooters and was a little concerned about the tank. This helps outset all of the negitive I have read on the boards.

     
  • Comment #22 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    With 2 teenage boys we are considering switching to Tank scooters to cut down on gas. I am familiar with Honda and Yamaha scooters and was a little concerned about the tank. This helps outset all of the negitive I have read on the boards.

     
  • Comment #23 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Writer gave an apparent real evaluation of the yammy and the tank even with some deficientcies he chose the tank as a better bang for your buck ie fun for the !
     
  • Comment #24 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Thank you for a very nice and informative article. I just received my tank today and i hope to enjoy it as you have yours!
     
  • Comment #25 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Thanks! I am considering buying a Tank 150. Even if you have to throw it away and buy another one before the Yamaha wears out still... look at the price. My Yamaha dealer wants 5500 or so for the 400cc. 5100 for that beautiful new 250cc. So 1200 (my Tank dealer) for the 150 sounds pretty good. Like Gov Jerry 'Moon Beam' Brown once said "we have to lower our expectations". But I have no expectations of the dealers in general. I expect all promises to become void upon payment of invoice.

     
  • Comment #26 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    I was not aware of all the ins and outs with the Tank. I bought based on the claims pictures and of course price. The assembly went quite well but it took a while to locate the gas line that was only partially pushed on the carb which I discovered while on a short jaunt to a neighboring town and it wouldn't re-start. Actually it will now become a tinkering project which satisfies me quite well. The article tells it like it is. No beating around the bush. Thank you.
     
  • Comment #27 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    I don't own either but thought the author was vary fair and objective.
     
  • Comment #28 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    this type of information is greatly appreciated. I have a Tank Urban Sporty 150 and wish I had had the benefit of this website. Thank you!
     
  • Comment #29 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    I appreciate the insight from a guy that has 30 years experience and seems very practical.
     
  • Comment #30 (Posted by Al. Barnes)
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    I have a Tank Touring 150 and a Honda Elite 80CH The lights on the Honda are the same when the motor stops the lights go out. The lights are wired so they come on when the motor is running and go out when the motor stops. Oh by the way I like th Tank much better than the Honda Elite and I think the quality of the Tank is just as good The Tank rides much better and the performance is great.
     
  • Comment #31 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Nice desciptions! My Tank 150 came with brake lights inop...Ill have to check into that...it also took 2 weeks to arrive and I am still waiting for certificate of origin. Both things were
    screwed up by the drop shipper but they have been very helpful and know exactly what they are
    doing so there will be no problems. Ditto on the mirrors...they seem to loosen up a lot.
     
  • Comment #32 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    as a new tank owner I find this info. invaluable. Thanks
     
  • Comment #33 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    There was no info on the bike from the dealer . The manual was usless . With this artical and the forgoing info has given me an insite to what to expect . I am empressed with the clairity of his observations .Thank you so much for all of your efforts on helping the novice people that enjoys motor scootering .
     
  • Comment #34 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    I've heard so much negativity about the Tank Scooters this was nice to hear an very matter of fact honest comparrison. Thanks for taking the time to do the comparrison an article!
     
  • Comment #35 (Posted by Chuck)
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    I own a Tank Touring 150cc. I have shopped and looked at many other scooters. This seems to be the best for the money. I have only put almost 400 miles so far but love the Tank. Just got the bike. Do most of my riding with my wife as a passenger. We get around town fine...A real blast to drive. Thanks!!!
     
  • Comment #36 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Very helpful. Sounds like Tank is a great value particularly given the much higher price tag for the Yamaha.
     
  • Comment #37 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    I was uncomfortable buying a scooter that wasn't made by a large company like Honda or Vespa so thisarticle was invaluable to me. thanks for all the research!! 1200 beats buying 300 scooter anyday.
     
  • Comment #38 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Am seriously considering buying the Tank and have been comparing it to others (including Yamaha). This artcle pretty much told me everything I was wondering about.
     
  • Comment #39 (Posted by gary r)
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    I have bought a Tank 150 Touring and i love it 650kl on it so far. Only one problem The break lights are stuck on. This has a real bad drain on the battery even running. did not notice till i went to start it and the battery was dead. Charged battery started rigth up but the break lights are still stuck on.Will get it to the shop to see what the problem is
     
  • Comment #40 (Posted by fred)
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    Received my Tank Touring 150 scooter last December. Had to replace one of the front headlights right off the bat. Went to JacarMotorsports to find out cost headlight bulb. They informed that the light bulbs were not sold separately and that I would have to buy a whole headlight assembly which cost around 50. Did some research and got a headlight bulb for under 6.00 from www.miamimoto.com. Next brake light stayed on all the time when you turned the ignition on. Took it to a local scooter shop here in Las Vegas and they troubleshot it down to the brake light switch on the left handlebar. The switch had fallen out of its slot- somehow causing short. Oh the speedometer is in miles and kilometers but the odometer only reads in kilometers. I have a little over 1500 kilometers on the scooter and have changed the oil twice. I am using 20-50w Pennzoil (28 ounces). I am using 20-50w oil because it gets so hot here and I figured that the little needed engine needed a thicker oil. I will probably run synthetic oil in it later on. Both times I changed the oil I pulled the spark and it looks perfect. The spark plug that came with it is SG A7TC (which I never heard of before). I use a 5/8" deep socket to change plug and it looks like the spark plug gap is .024 to .025 inches or .61 to .674mm. As best I can tell is the scooter gets about 78 miles per gallon (figured this out after measuring gas consumption and then converting kilometers to miles. I have pulled the air cleaner out both times I changed the oil. It always looks perfectly clean. Does anyone have any idea what the part number or model number is of the air cleaner I ride the scooter almost everyday to work (5 days a week/20 miles roundtrip) and it is fairly comfortable. It will do 50 miles per hours but it seems to be working very hard if I try to go any faster than that. I took the radio/cassette player out because the radio reception was crappy and it seemed to be a real pain to try play tapes on it - especially with it underneath the seat and everytime I would store something underath the seat it would always wind up touching the knobs of the radio/cassette player. The rear storage box that came with the scooter was broken when I received it. One of the hinges on the box is partially broken but it still works as long as make sure that the box is locked before I start out each day. I have enjoyed reading what other people have said about their scooters so maybe these comments will do someone some good! Fred!
     
  • Comment #41 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    I have a Tank 150cc urban racer and this article is correct on all of the features likes and dislikes of the bike.
     
  • Comment #42 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    I am ready to buy my first scooter but I really have no clue who is good who is bad....
     
  • Comment #43 (Posted by A. L. Stallings)
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    anyone that thinks tank is any good is nuts! I have had a touring 150 from oct.05 it nas been down 50 the time I have had it.I ame looking for my 3rd regulator now .It has taken out the resterthe head lighsand the battery is no good.the pepole I got the thing from told me to get lost so I found out how to get the owner of tank MR.Kevin Holcomb At P O Box 39 PouitnyVt 05764. Phone no. 802-287-2289 got hes secrtary she was vary nice told her I just needed someone to work with me to get this thing fixsshe told me she can have MR. holcomb call me back that was on 6-8-06 it is now 7-14-06 and I am still holding my breath so I think that makes me nuts to!!! I have been a bike teck for forty years and never seen anything like this Thay just do not want to do anything SO YOU MAKE UP YOUR MIND!! AS for me I am going to use the lawthats what It is there for
     
  • Comment #44 (Posted by gary r)
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    Follow up. Have a little over 1000 miles on my tank 150. break lights have been fixed.Now the speedo cable has come loose. need to get this fixed now. Had a rear tire flat that was fun to get fixed. Ended up putting a plug in so far so good. I do not know how some people get there 150 to go 65 miles per hour i have not been able to go faster then 57 miles per hour on a flat road max no more. besides the small stuff i am still happy with the Tank 150 touring. looking forward to many miles with it .Ride Safe
     
  • Comment #45 (Posted by Patrick)
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    I have a Tank 150 Touring. I received it on 6-10-06 in great condition.Assembled it started it and its been running fine since. I now have 1100km on it and have changed the oil twice.Top speed for me as well is 57mph. I ordered a new cvt belt for it and plan on putting it on soon. So far the only problem I've had is the turn signals intermittently wont flash. I believe I need a new flasher. So far so good I really like it alot.
     
  • Comment #46 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    I also own a Tank Touring 150. I have 2700Km on it now. I agree with all the info Chris has mentioned. Recently the bolts for the swing arm fell out and caused my muffler support bracket to break which was the only thing holding the right side of the rear wheel. After replacing the bolts with hardened bolts and spacers It still ran great but a couple of days later the drive belt broke. Overall it has been a good ride for the money. Just be sure to tighten all bolts and screws regularly. Thanks Dan
     
  • Comment #47 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    I'm looking into purchasing a Tank so this info was definitely helpful! Thanks!
     
  • Comment #48 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Very good information I have just started looking to purchase and had never heard of a Tank till I saw one for sale at a dealer close by. I am trying to make a decision between the Tank and the Majesty. I wish Tank had a 400cc.
     
  • Comment #49 (Posted by Chris Edmonson)
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    They may not make a 400cc (yet) BUT they do make a 150cc!!
     
  • Comment #50 (Posted by Chris Edmonson)
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    Oooops... I meant to say they make a 250cc scoot.
     
  • Comment #51 (Posted by grfx)
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    Did you or anyone find where the short was for the fuel read out My fuel tank is full but only moves about a millimeter.Any Suggestions
     
  • Comment #52 (Posted by Chris Edmonson)
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    Yes there is a connector just after the gage it was tied tightly to the framework behind the windshield cowling. The issue turned out to be that the connection was intermittant - the fix was to cut the tie and replace with a looser tie then reconnect. If that had not worked I would have cut the connector off and put in one that I knew would work.
     
  • Comment #53 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Thanks for the input. I'm considering buying a Tank and your review was helpful.
     
  • Comment #54 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    I really like what you had to say about the Tank here I am planning on buying one the seller showed me some pictures of some scratches on it however it looks like the cowling has 1:1 inch whole at the bottom how difficult is that to replace if I wanted too.
     
  • Comment #55 (Posted by Art Williams)
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    I purchased my Tank 150T-H 6-12-06. After assembly (Guess By Gosh) I tried starting my Tank. Squirted gasoline all over the garage. Found the gas line to the carburator had not been hooked up. I now have 31067 Km. To date I have had no problems. I try to ride every evening for an hour or so. I change oil (SAE 10W-30 motor oil) every 1000Km. I also change the gear box oil (SAE 80W-90 Gear Lubricant) every 1000 Km. My Tank runs happily on regular unleaded gasoline. I get around 75 MPG. I am very happy so far with my Tank. Loved your comments on the Tank. Wish I had a good owners manual and a good maintenance manual. I get a good laugh trying to read the Manual that came with the bike. Safe riding. Art
     
  • Comment #56 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Wow!! Great article and all the feed back seems like mostly positive. I have been looking at the Tank 250cc model for a few weeks now and this was what I was looking for. I'll come back after I get the bike for some feedback.
     
  • Comment #57 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    I've learn alot from your articles and layout I'd just ordered my Deluxe 150CC tank and can't wait to ride. Had a heck of a time convencing my wife for me to get one but at 30 to 40 dollars a week on gas alone I told her it'll pay itself off with in one year. Hopefully I won't incounter lots of problems.This will be a good experiance for me (Thank God I know lots of buddies who work on Bikes)
     
  • Comment #58 (Posted by Rael Tanchum)
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    I am also having a problem with the gas gauge reading intermitently I was wondering if you had found the source of the problem it would save me having to strip the whole bike if it is a relatively simple fix.
    Also does anybody have a copy of the wiring diagram that is more readable than the one in the manual
     
  • Comment #59 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Very good comparison article on two dissimilar scoots. Well Done! However reading all the comments below has given me a bit of a scare. (See my comments on the review for the 250). Thanks Again! Mike
     
  • Comment #60 (Posted by Chris Edmonson)
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    It looks as if the spammers have "discovered" this article and will not be letting us alone. It may be time to pull the article or curtail the comments section. Thank you all for the feedback... if I can find other things to write about or new comparisons to do I will. The number of unposted comments have been excellent as well and I appreciate the efforts of the folks keeping this open and spam free for as long as they have been able to do so. Take care one and all.
     
  • Comment #61 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Just bught the Tank Touring Urban 150cc scooter. I am a female 5'7" and weigh 122. I am concerned that this scooter might be too big and heavy for me. It didn't look this large on the scooter site. I have had a few motorcycles such as the Harley Sportster 883 Custom so am hoping I can used to the size and weight of this scoot. Your article gave me some great insight into the Tank and I felt like I was knowing the author since he described perfectly the problems and difficulties he had with each model. Thanks for a great article.
    Carole in JAX
     
  • Comment #62 (Posted by Jim)
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    Real useful article, and the comments are just as useful. I'll be doing some more mods on my Tank when it arrives, looks like.
     
  • Comment #63 (Posted by C W MEEKS)
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    Hello,
    keeping the engine valve clearances set to specs. is very important for small high speed engines.I found the valves to be 'tight' on my new scooter.
    CW
     
  • Comment #64 (Posted by Art Williams)
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    A correction on comment #55. I purchased my Tank 12/06/05. I now have 5780Kn on the bike. No major problens. I did have a problem with the rear wheel loosening up and causing the bike to wobble. I could not find a self locking metric nut so I used red lock tight and it has not loosened up for several hunderd kilometers. One other small problem. Two bolts came out of the bracket that holds my muffler on the bike. I got two new bolts and put them in using the green lock tight. Those bolts have not come loose for a couple of hundred kilometers. I was pretty diligent in trying to keep all bolts, nuts and screws tight but on a long ride I lost the two bolts. Remedy is to use lock tight and the bolts nuts and screws will stay in place. I also had to change out my headlight bulbs. No big problem. I still love my Tank and if I had to do it over I would buy another Tank. Safe Riding. Art
     
  • Comment #65 (Posted by Charlie)
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    Thanks for the in depth review. Now that you have had it a while anything to add?
     
  • Comment #66 (Posted by Chris Edmonson)
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    I think by way of continuing the story the longer term use of the scooter has made me realize that the real utility in these two wheelers is in the value of additions to carrying capacity. The thing about this one was that it had more than many of the similar sized scooters to begin with. The scooter needed more of a top box that was better made and it would have benefitted from some additional room (under seat) capacity. At this point I recently sold the Tank and am looking at another model for future purchase. It was still fun to ride and it held up fairly well. I am certain that the new owner will ehjoy it for a long time to come. The range (due to the higher tankage for fuel) continued to be a plus and the small things that started to bug me a little were very small things indeed. Overall I would have to say that I still like the Tank but will look for slightly more horsepower in the next one... I do want to stay with the same size tires so that rules out the Tank 250 for the moment.
     
  • Comment #67 (Posted by Joe O'Neil)
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    Great comments one and all. I too have just began looking at the Tank 150 touring and the 250 touring. I am looking foward to some feed back from some who have the 250. I hope soon I will be joining the many who are scooting out there. Joe in Cincinnati
     
  • Comment #68 (Posted by Dave)
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    I ordered a Tank 250 two weeks ago...still have not seen it. I've enjoyed reading your comments. My daily commute is only 8 miles round trip on small town streets...so this should do the trick.
     
  • Comment #69 (Posted by John Wilcutts)
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    you need to put a repair manuel on this site, then and only then will you get more visitors. The manuel for the tk150 sucked so bad, I could hardly breathe. Haha thanks,

    john w
     
  • Comment #70 (Posted by Dwaine Smith)
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    Just trying to understand these Chinese scooters. You helped a lot. Are they junk, or okay? Sounds like they're okay. Thanks!
     
  • Comment #71 (Posted by Ed Franklin)
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    Help me! I just purchased the urban tank 150 cc and i have had nothing but problems. I contacted the tech rep for help and nothing helped. Maybe a reader has had the same problem with their bike. the bike starts great but there is no power when going down the road and it sucks gas. I went 37 miles and it used a half tank of gas. I can only get the bike to do 35 mph on a flat road. The rep told me to change the oil it did not help, then he told me to put carb cleaner in the carb and that didnt help. Any solutions would be helpful thanks. Just a reminder to all when i bought the bike it came from kansas, to michigan, I didnt realize that the urban tank has no dealerships in michigan so no repairs done here either. STUPID ME.
     
  • Comment #72 (Posted by Ripped Off)
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    I purchased a brand new Tank Touring 250. With less than a hundred miles on it and 2 months into ownership , it developed a coolant leak. I also had to track down the fan sensor and plug it in. The Authorized Dealer was unhelpful so I also tracked down the coolant problem myself and fixed the offending hose.
    Some months later the bike - with less than 500 miles on it - suddenly spewed water and coolant everywhere. Upon removing the panels I discovered that the radiator filler neck blew apart and the radiator fan had fallen apart...LESS THAN 500 MILES!!! The fan and filler neck were made of cheap plastic obviously unworthy of the needs of a cooling sysytem on a 250cc engine.
    The bike arrived with many of the features missing that were promised. Also, it had a hole where it looked like the fuse box had been retrofitted when somebody had changed their mind about design. It was hardly what I expected from a new purchase. Although I had been in frequent contact with Tank Sports USA about the problems and missing features, they spent the last year insisting I need to go to the Authorized Dealer who sold me the bike...which I tried over and over to no avail. This Authorized Dealer is no longer around. One whole year of the runaround and very little scooter riding.
    The worst part of this is: of all the labeling on the crate that the bike came in, there was not a single reference to the dealers address. All labeling would indicate the bike was shipped straight from Tank Sports. So who screwed this consumer? And why does Tank Sports keep trying to send me to a non-existent entity?
    Tank Sports USA - in my opinion - was a terrible choice and I would advise others to avoid their products.
    We bought another brand scooter for $850 and that little 150cc goes like wildfire...it ain't no Tank, that's for sure.
     
  • Comment #73 (Posted by Floyd)
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    I purchased a 06 tank scooter in Feb this year (new from dealer). I've gone through 3 drive belts since Feb. With only 2000km on the engine I'm wondering if I'm doing something wrong? Replies from tank owners or experts would be helpful
     
  • Comment #74 (Posted by banh van)
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    free way
     
  • Comment #75 (Posted by Scott Ferguson)
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    Chris,
    Great stuff. Hey, I took in my Tank 150 Touring - just like you pictured it and they overtightened the spark plug. This in turn broke off all of the threds. I driled into the engine - installed a Heli-coil and now the darn thing wont start. Could I have damaged something while drilling? I don't think I hit anything and the plug is nice and tight now. am I supposed to get power to the coil? When I put a light meter to both prongs of the coil, I get nothing. Please help. I miss riding it. It's been 8 months!!!
    thanks.
     
  • Comment #76 (Posted by tjandsar@rcn.com)
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    I bought a Tank Urban Courier from the VT folks two years ago. It arrived in PA, in the appropriate 'crate'. Successfully 'unwrapped'. The steel crate is a great base now for fire-wood : keeps the wood dry. The Tank did it's flood the area with fuel until I realized that the shipper drained the (fuel)tank and pulled the hose from the carb. Fixed that: ran fine but winter came.

    After too many months I loaded it on the back of the truck and drove it to our new home in FL. Too much work to do so it sat for about a year: too long with fuel in the tank and the carb - - it took a 'chinese' tune-up to get it cleaned out - - starter fluid into the intake. Now it runs just fine. I added a 'dead switch' to t