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Comparison: Tank Touring 150 and Tn'Gs Milano 125
By Chris Edmonson | Published  02/9/2006 | Product Comparisons | Rating:
Comparison: Tank Touring 150 and Tn'Gs Milano 125

     As it happened I found myself looking at a 2004 Milano 125 that was a theft recovery.  Here was an opportunity to look closely at the construction of a smaller scooter while putting it back together.  The motor was the same as the Tanks 150 cc GY6 but with a displacement of 125 ccâ?™s so I thought it would be an interesting comparison as well.  Some people might look at the Milano by Tnâ?™G as a Spartan scooter with little other than utility and retro styling to recommend it but after spending time with this machine I would say that would be missing the point.  What follows here is some of what I found as I played with putting the Milano back together.

 

    

The Tnâ?™G Milano 125 has a look that is slightly retro and a feel that is solid scooter.

 

     By now you know something about the Tank and the controversy the Chinese invasion of scooters has caused in the U.S. marketplace.  In the process of buying one I spent quite a bit of time with the computer getting to know a lot about the uninformed opinions these single trackers generate as well as the misinformation.  Much of the venom directed at the machine and its manufacturer was misplaced irritation over the practices of a very few retailers.  Lots of verbiage passed between June of 2005 and present among the denizens of the internet over what awful products these imports are (even claimed by some to be illegal for use in the United States) and unfortunately very little information from that period stood the test of time and usage.  When I got my Tank (TK150T-H) it was a typical delivery with the front wheel and top case detached and the gas line in need of connecting.  In putting it together there was not a lot of time or energy expended due in large part to the excellent article by John Ebberts showing a step by step guide on how to do it.  Since then there has been a constant stream of information about every aspect of maintenance and repair as owners discover the workings of their Tank.  Everyone acknowledges that the ownerâ?™s manual is useless but the information on-line has largely replaced the need for a manual.

 

            

               Tank took the lines of a modern scooter and put it in an appealing package.

 

     The Milano has excellent support on-line from its parent company Tnâ?™G and this includes a parts catalog as well as an ownerâ?™s manual that is easy to use.  When I got this Pearl Green beauty it only came with a manual from the previous owner in Spanish.  While I can struggle through issues in that language, thanks to living and being part of the Southwestern culture for so long, it just takes me a while longer.  Moreover, my knowledge is not technical in nature in that language.  In fact, better that we should order cervesas (beer) together than bujias o frenos (spark plugs or brakes).  There were lots of missing parts to the Milano when I picked it up.  Body panels had been gouged or were not there at all, while bolts holding the engine in place were broken off in the scooter and, in general, you might think that I lacked good sense if you had seen the state of the scooter at that time.  It had obviously been run through the brush and many of the panels were cracked.  In no time I had stripped it down and made a list of what was needed from looking at the on-line parts available.  I made a visit to a local (and very cool) retail shop (Scoot Over in Tucson) and had the most of the parts in a week or so.  A few things needed follow up because I had not noticed them being broken or missing on the first go round but in short order I was riding the beast around town.

 

     The differences in the two machines are significant.  The Milano has 10 inch wheels compared to the 12 inchers on the Tank.  Right away you notice the fast turning of the Milano due to the tire size.  The Tank is no slouch when it comes to turning with its light weight and close steering geometry (57.08 inch wheel base) but the Milano has a shorter wheel base (48.5 inches) and the ten inch wheels to offer a snappy and quick response.  Up to, say, thirty miles an hour from a stop you will notice the Milano is slightly more tender in its handling while keeping up nicely with the Tank.  Over thirty the Tank is noticeably steadier and the Milano is getting a little touchy.  The Milanoâ?™s 124.6 cc motor works harder to maintain speed and though it is rated at 9 horse power it is clearly less motor than the Tankâ?™s 149.7 ccâ?™s and just over 10 horse power.  The difference propels the Tank up to around 65 mph but the Milano can struggle to get to 55 mph so you get much more than expected from the Tank.  If you had come to the Tank from a Milano perspective you would be amazed and amused by this but coming, as I did, from the Tank it was obvious that I would have to hot rod the Milano if I were going to keep it long term.  At this point I need to mention that I enjoy the Milano despite this lack of power because it IS fun to ride!  Also the folks at Tnâ?™G must agree because in the later versions they upped the power plant to a 150 cc motor.

 

     One of the things that you notice when you get the speed up is that the TK150 comes with a windshield and the Milano does not.  On a cold morning I had to think twice about which one I was going take for a short jaunt to the hardware store.  The deciding factor that day turned out to be that the storage capacity of the Tank is a good deal larger than the Milano which made the choice more obvious.  There is a hook at the front (behind the cowling) of the Milano that can add a way to carry a bag of two but the under seat storage is less than the Tank has.  I like the hook so much I may install something similar on the Tank one of these days.  In a way, the area under the seat of the Milano is more useable but there is so much more volume in the Tank plus the top carrier box that itâ?™s no contest really.

 

     A small issue is the turning signal button.  On the Tank itâ?™s an easy enough button to use but I noticed that the one on the Milano has a more positive feeling to it.  It is easier to tell without looking when you have disengaged the signal on the Milano.  It is not that the one on the Tank is bad; it is not, it is more that a push on the Milano clicks and you feel the disengagement more clearly. 

 

     Once I got the Tankâ?™s brake handles adjusted correctly there was an obvious benefit to the positive feel of full braking from its front and rear disc brakes.  The surprise for me here was the Milano came with a disc forward but drum rear set up yet was very steady on full braking maneuvers.  Thatâ?™s the sort of surprise you can learn to like.  The miniscule 1.45 gallon fuel tank on the Milano has driven me little crazy since I have been used to the 2.9 gallon capacity on the Tank.  The difference in gas mileage is such that you soon learn to appreciate the larger fuel supply available on the TK150.  My experience has been a mpg between 70 to 75 for the Tank and around 85 for the Tnâ?™G. 

 

     The fit and finish of the Milano is really good.  Everything seems to be put together very well and while I had read complaints regarding these on earlier models I didnâ?™t see problems here.  Keep in mind this Milano had been sorely used (and abused) before I had gotten it and if there was any indication of a failure I would likely have seen it while dismantling and reassembling it.  Having taken the Tank apart several times for different reasons I can say that it is put together well and the parts fit nicely once you get the hang of how they work together to make the whole.  The aft section is an intricate combination that is not piece meal â?“ that is, if you want one panel off you will need to take them all off!  Given that both of these are plastic body works I would rather take the Milano apart and put it together than the Tank due to the ease of assembly but the Tank is well thought out and very sturdy. 

 

     One thing that I figured out right away was that I could easily kick start the Milano but that the Tank was almost never willing to give me positive reinforcement on the first or second kick.  Good thing the electric start works well on both of them.  In both cases the batteries are almost the same, 12 volt with 6 or 7 Ah rating. 

 

     In trying these scooters out I had periods that had me favoring one over the other for different reasons.  For a time I preferred the Milano for the better lighting it gave me at night.  Its single bulb out shone the Tankâ?™s dual system and seemed to hit the road in the right place.  Even after I changed out the Tankâ?™s headlight assembly I preferred the Milanoâ?™s brightness.  The ease of getting around on the Milano and the fact that it is much lighter (222 pounds against 286 pounds) was a plus.  Then I got in a frame of mind that had me going faster and I got to appreciate the larger wheel size and more weight of the TK150 along with more pull.  If lived in town and had a regular short commute I would choose the Milano but I know that longer rides, with a group here, has me ranging further a field than that and I would choose the Tank.  Although the Milano is built in the USA it is from parts made in China and, frankly, it is obvious that Tnâ?™G is trying to construct a good combination.  Tank must have quality control involved in their process as well and the result is a very workable unit.  Small issues pop up on any vehicle when you own it for a while but either of these one track vehicles should give long service under good maintenance.

 

     Overall I like the little 125 Milano as a second scoot for short hops.  It is even comfortable for someone of my large size on longer rides.  That was something that was very positive from the start.  For the long term I would want something with a bit more speed capability and more storage available.  If I were to keep this scooter I would add some racks, possibly both front and rear to increase the hauling ability.  It would be nice to have room for groceries.  The Tank has all this and frankly there is increasing dealer support as well to make it easier to find parts.  It will take time but Tank appears to be trending in the right direction with its support.  At the end of the day I have discovered I like riding these two wheeled vehicles and will hope to look at more of them in the future!

 

    


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  • Comment #1 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    fair report not one sided
     
  • Comment #2 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Like getting a riders view.
     
  • Comment #3 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    the author was entirely objective with no prejudicial bias towards either unit. very refreshing!!!
     
  • Comment #4 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    I'm looking forward to recieving my new tank!Thanks!
     
  • Comment #5 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    hi its JOHN (bbj500) another good report..... are you going to buy the new 250 touring when it comes out
    then you can do a how to set up report on it........lol
    I saw a retro scoot the other day might have been a vespa hard to tell going the other way at 60 but it actualy looked good it was silver but i could tell it had a smaller motor. i used to ride a 85 honda ch 150 that only had a 49 inch wheel base so i know what you meen about it being a little touchy. out of the 3 scoots you now have whats your favorite just wondering.
     
  • Comment #6 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    I really appreciate for the fact that Chris compared the Tank with anoter similar model and he is pointing things out objectively not digging out 'bad' things. Thanks Chris!
    The only reason we are debating over Chinese's scooters is because we don't make on here in U.S. When that will be... Hmmm
     
  • Comment #7 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Very seldom do we get the mechanical view!
     
  • Comment #8 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Very well explained - and objective. Also a great deal of useful information regarding the tank which I am interested in.
     
  • Comment #9 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    this article is very informative from the owner's perspective and not the dealer's. It's good to see an actual testimonial for the 'Tank 150' Scooter about the ride and the handling as well as the cargo capacity for the vehicle. I am considering getting one myself now...
     
  • Comment #10 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    this well a very well written out and thought of...it helped me WONDERERFULLY with making my decision
     
  • Comment #11 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Thanks for your inputs.. looking to pick a Tank up..
    Can't figure on 250 or 150.. and price..
    Havea yourself a good day and be safe.

     
  • Comment #12 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    One of the reasons that an older rider like myself (and largeralas)choose the Tank was this article.
     
  • Comment #13 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Article was objective and provided information that was useful. Have been thinking about getting a Tank this aricle may well have closed the deal.
     
  • Comment #14 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Article was objective and provided information that was useful. Have been thinking about getting a Tank this aricle may well have closed the deal.
     
  • Comment #15 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    "my large size" is too indefinite for me
     
  • Comment #16 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    This is the way every review should be about anything...Unbiased inititally outlining the facts then going into personal preference and opinion. The great review on the Tank was sorely needed since there has been a lot of bashing of Chinese made scooters and a lot of conflicting reports. I hope as this author has time to review further scooters there wil be similar reviews posted.
     
  • Comment #17 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    I'm seriously considering a Tank Touring 250 and this was an excellent overview that calmed some of my fears. Of course I'm assuming the Tank 150 reviewed here is very similar to the 250 just with a larger displacement.
     
  • Comment #18 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Thanks for the insights I am currently in the process of purchasing the new Tank 250. Wish me luck. f. Garcia
     
  • Comment #19 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Factual informative.
     
  • Comment #20 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Factual informative.
     
  • Comment #21 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Factual informative.
     
  • Comment #22 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    I am looking at a Tank scooter and this review was very specific. Thank you
     
  • Comment #23 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Seemd to know what he was talking about since he had actually taken apart both scooters.
     
  • Comment #24 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    very well written and objective
     
  • Comment #25 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    hi can u call me live in nyc thinking of tank 250 reflex clone 917 301 1130 steve
     
  • Comment #26 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    This man seemed to be very fair and he had no ax to grind. He also seemed to have some mechanical knowledge which will be helpful in doing a comparsion like this. I reall appreciated his honesty and i do have a 250cc tank on order and his article was very refreshing to me.
     
  • Comment #27 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    I had bought the Tank Urban Sport before the Touring one.The Sport model is faster off the start and does go faster(both have the 150cc motor).But the Touring is so much more comfortableis so much more stable in the windthe windshield is a big plusthe am/fm radio is nice but it is hard to hear while ridingthe sport model has remote start(which I never used)and alarm system(which is a big plus)the Touring did not come with eitherthe storage in the sport seemed to me has morethe Sport has a tachometerthe Touring doesn't.Like you I feel both have their niches.But it is like night and day in the handling and performance.The only thing on both is the nuts and bolts-I feel that a person should go thru everything and tighten every nut and bolt on their scooters.I almost lost the trunk when I took the Touring for it's maiden drive.And there are other issuesthe carberator is out of adjustmentthe brake levers are out of adjustmentthe seat lock is out of adjustmentthe trunk lock is out of adjustment.And there is probably more I'll get to each as I cross that bridge.I allready want to replace the motor with a 250cc water cooled one.All and all you can't beat the price of a Tank versus say like a Honda and others.The only thing that really sucks is these motor scooters can be made here in the statesI wish Harley Davidson would make one and be in the same price range as a Tank This could be done.And I would be one of the first to get one.
     
  • Comment #28 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    woot.
     
  • Comment #29 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Very good details. I am interested in the 150 Tank and this article helped get a little better view. Thanks
     
  • Comment #30 (Posted by JEFF BOUSQUET)
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    I love my Tank 150 but that manuel sucked !Would someone please tell me how to change the gear oil and air filter I have changed the engine oil twice and I'm about to hit 1000mi.but don't know how to do regular maint. on it. Any help would be appreciated. Jeff Bousquet --Greeneyes4185@aol.com
     
  • Comment #31 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Really an enjoyable and educational read.
     
  • Comment #32 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    I just put in 300 miles on my 2006 Tank DE Touring 150. Guess what The fuel gauge stop working and the speedometer and of course the oddometer also gave up. It seems too early to be having this problems do you have any suggestions as to where I shall go to look to repairs these problems Speaking of quality control there you are. Thanks.

    romeosomera@netscape.com
     
  • Comment #33 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    very informative detail rich! You sold me on a Tank/Viva 150 :) GuyGottlieb@Gmail.com/ Los Angeles ( anyone has any input on these customization/ parts/service in Los Angeles)
     
  • Comment #34 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    every thing was covered. handleing lights switches comfort speed mpg. very insightful for someone looking to buy this very affordabl scooter but knows nothing about it. thank you!
     
  • Comment #35 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Thanks. I am looking at buying a Tank... (um never thought I would say that.)
     
  • Comment #36 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    I just bought a Tank and this helped me know a little more about it. I am a former Cushman rider and have been looking for a sporty automatic that my short legs could reach the ground while sitting on the seat. This fit nicely where as my Burgman 650 was too tall and I never got to ride it! Now if I could find a replacement windshield (mine got broken when we were unloading it at home!:( Anyone with info send to jteach2006@aol.com Thanks :)
     
  • Comment #37 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Interesting and informative as I just purchased a Tank 150cc. And to add to that I found the author to be extremely sexy and adorable. He could talk to me anytime about my scooter. We have a lot of scooters down here in Jacksonville FL and more and more businessmen are riding them. My Tank is a head turner as you don't see many of them down here. It gets great mileage and I can ride it to St. Augustine- a 30 minute ride down A1A in no time flat. It is a honey. I think you will see a lot of people riding them in the future especially if gas prices go up any higher. So to Chris the author thank you for a spectacular article/story. I was impressed. by your writing.
     
  • Comment #38 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Good comparisons between two scooters. Nice details.
     
  • Comment #39 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    I just bought a tank 150 thanks for the outlook
     
  • Comment #40 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    Good balanced reporting.
     
  • Comment #41 (Posted by Gary)
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    Great objective article. I bought the Tank Urban Sporty 150 before I read this article. Its a fun bike and great value but I lust for the Tank Touring. The urban sporty is more like the milano: It has only a 1 gallon gas capacity has a shorter wheelbase than the tank touring and has limited storage. I use the scoot mostly to commute back and forth to work and to run shopping errands so I think the Touring would be a better model for me.
     
  • Comment #42 (Posted by an unknown user)
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    I have the tank 150 and I have some issues withe it like I can't adjust the side view mirrors and they shake alot they are real cheap the brake lite comes on late like I really have to pull the brake levers hard and I tried adjuesting the switches but they are not adjustebl. Head lights are dimtail lights are dim emergency lights works only if the key is on. When I bought(new) lots of bolts and screws were loose and some were even missing. It's really rides great though and real good on gas. So I tighten all the bolts and screws and replaced missing screws and sure like to replace the tail light and headlights bulbs with bright ones but don't know what to get but other than that I LOVE my TANK.
     
  • Comment #43 (Posted by maria)
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    I thinking to buy a scooter but Iam not sure wich one is better for me because Iam to chorth.

     
  • Comment #44 (Posted by Bob Hardison)
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    I thought it was very good info. I just love my new 07 150CC scooter. Today I changed the original oil and replaced with mobil 10W30 synthetic and after a few miles of riding, the idle speed was too fast and I had to lower it. Also, the engine had a little more acceleration-not much but enough to tell. (more slippery oil made the engine run with less drag) I think the secret of having a really great Chinese scooter is take care of it and treat it like it was the greatest scooter ever made. I just love mine.
     
  • Comment #45 (Posted by Archie Shipp)
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    The Tank 150 Touring is the same as the Roketa 150 Touring scooter. I bought one a few months ago, and agree with this review. I have had an easy time with the customer service from www.atvsimports.com and am very happy with the design and power of this mid-sized scooter. I do agree that the headlights are rather weak though.

     
  • Comment #46 (Posted by Gordon Mirrett)
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    I purchased a Tank touring 150cc from Scooter Demand a year ago. I have contacted Scooter Demand and now Tank Directly. The mirrors do not adjust so all I can see is directly below me. Fuel gauge doesn't work, screws missing from exhaust pipe and shield. I have 42 miles on it and got it delivered February 23rd. 2007. Tank is now working with me to get this bike going. Scooter would not do anything but worked with the credit card company and after a long time Gruess what....they are now emailing me. The mirrors per tank are wrong and this was discussed with dealers 2 years ago. Scooter Demand is no longer a dealer.
     
  • Comment #47 (Posted by MIke from PA)
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    Many useful comments on the tank. I have been considering the purchase of a scooter (my first) for commuting when weather permits. The main idea is to save gas and I'm a bit fed up that so many of my students have been deployed in what is an oil war to some extent.
    My first question has to do with engine size. My terrain is quite hilly, many of the roads in upstate PA have a significant grade. I started looking into the Baja 150 from TNG but am backing away from this for two reasons: they don't seem to be availiable and a 150cc engine might be disappointing.
    My more recent fixation is on the Tank 250.
    I'm a little concerned about buying such an item on line. Any tips form the better informed? What should I look for?
    Any comments on these issues is most appreciated.
     
  • Comment #48 (Posted by Dan)
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    Hello, nice article, being new to scooters and living in CA I have a question, on some dealer sites they say the scooters are not street legal in CA. I looked at the CD DMV site regarding this law and it appears that these types of scooters do not meet the defination of a scooter. My assumption is that they would be street legal (not looking to ride on the highway). Does anyone know this for sure? Thanks
     
  • Comment #49 (Posted by Chris Edmonson)
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    Not street legal in California mean not legal in California. It si a pollution issue not a horse power or freeway issue. The scooters that you are looking are not meeting EPA/CA required emmisions standards. They also have not submitted the proper paper work to allow them to be registered in the state.
     
  • Comment #50 (Posted by Don Lessard)
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    Just recieved the scooter Friday a 150 touring deluxe.It said the moped will do 95mph.Don`t believe that.Going to replace the Radio Then everything will be fine.I still need a license.Never had a bike before.For a first bike I think this bike is great . Don
     
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